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You can change at will with the Book "Soothsaying for Dummies" found in Tanaris. If you are looking for an easy way to make gold, then engineering isn't for you. Levelling engineering from can cost thousands of gold, and it will take a very long time to earn that gold back when you do get to max level. It has very fun items like Rocket boots, Parachute cloak, and, to top it off, a bank and reagent vendor every hour! Comment by guntitan Engineers can make money.

We have a mount we can sell, a few companion pets, some mats that other classes need, we can farm our own motes, make and sell end game arrows and bullets, and the list can go on. Just need to find your niche in the market. Comment by Mastrcapn Engineering is the 'fun' profession in the game.

The problem with this is money: You need it. A lot of it. Leveling Engineering could be compared to being stabbed in the neck with a solid gold knife: It sucks, but everyone will know "Hey, this guy is worth something!

Engineering has a relatively small niche in the market. Most Engineer items are Bind on Pickup or require engineering to do, save for some vanity pets and ammunition. Engineering is not a profession that you will want to start out with on your character.

Better to level an 80 with a money-making skill before sojourning into the world of Engineering. See what I did there? Engineering requires a LOT of ore, many gems, rocks, etc. Occasionally you may end up needing ingredients from other sources, but for the most part, mining is most complementary. Comment by im noticing that some of the BC trainers won't allow me to train things from them, such as the deathblow x11 goggles from k. Comment by I have a question. I was wondering how I de-engineer something.

I am a eng. But am only lvl I know it doesn't matter until I get to level 80 but I would like to know if I have missed something.

I have got no spells for eng in my book except for eng, and gnomish eng. Any help would be grateful. Comment by Varkyrion Engineering is something that you should choose to have some fun. Comment by itgrowls Despite all the hubub about how costly this is, It never cost me thousands of gold as my engineer was also a miner. It's very easy to get a ton of ore around azeroth, outland, northrend make parts until you are max. I've been playing since launch but only started engineering two years into the game.

Leveled engineering two other times on two other types of characters the same way once on a caster and once on a pally tank. Both times it was just as easy. Be sure and gather as much ore as possible. Iron, mithril, and thorium are needed the most in order to get to the mark. Even though it didn't cost me a dime Comment by Hypothetically.

If im a goblin engineer and i have all the schematics i can for goblin. Comment by Only one schematic for lvl Engineers, hopping for another mount and some more BoE guns to put on the AH at Comment by puppysnuff Hypothetically.

Various new tinkers including a priest-type bubble, Increased effects of potions like the alchemist trinkets , and a cloning devise!

Comment by LeminaAusa Engineering tinkers, as of patch 4. Comment by Dahork new engineering mount for cataclysm please! Comment by Cryptorchild Here's what's bugging me, maybe someone from the Cata beta can explain.

How in the name of hell are we expected to skill this now? Looking at the skill gain levels, there is a gap from to , with no item I can tell being able to fill the gap. Sorta pointless to have some awesome goggles to aim for, when it looks currently impossible to even reach that point. Comment by Blagga It looks like now certain Engineering recipes can give you multiple skill-up points at a time. Comment by is engineering mainly used for casting classes?

Comment by Blagga Good news, everyone. As of the last hotfix, you can now keep learning new tinkers at max Engineering: All eight of the Engineering discoveries are now able to be learned through crafting the Overpowered Chicken Splitter at max-level Engineering.

Comment by I am curious about levelling engineering. Character is a paladin that is primarily retribution spec now, but I began as a tank and still tank often doing random heroics for a faster que time. Does anyone else have exp with that combination on a pally? If so, how was your experience? Has anyone seen a list compiled of the total items needed to level up?

I haven't seen the changes coming up in the next patch, is it being nerfed? Is it still a terrible money maker, as previous posters have stated. Answers to these questions and any other comments would be greatly appreciated! Comment by Izzyasha As much as everyone seemed geared for engineering to be amazing alot of stuff got cut before being released Like the amazing epic bows and guns we could make And the ability to itemized our trinkets Wether these will be implemented is to be seen.

Not to mention ive yet to see a single engineering mob in the game Remember in wrath when they implemented the skinning into us looking for scrap parts to use, Not a single Mob in This expansion has been "skinnable" this expansion except for oldworld mobs. That seemed wasted. While i know this is a gimmick profession.

Thats suppose to be fun? It wasnt fun at all No fun gimmick items other then a new pet? Im sorry no amount of shiny goggles will make my undead attractive. Need a name change to Cardboard meatshield. Anyways i cant speak how viable this post will be in future patches but so far engineering got the shaft.

The goggles are nice, But unless the cogs or goggles scale Comment by Engineering is really not much fore plate wearers, is it? I know there are holy paladin items in there, but for everybody else, at least 85, it's pretty useless, isn't it?

Comment by even though we eng didnt get a ton of new toys in cata the bio-optic killshades are pretty high end for this tier of content 4. Comment by Engineering is, by far, the best profession for any kind of competitive play PvP, PvE and has the most tools for your average player.

That said, there's nothing wrong with taking engineering on every one of your characters. The goggles are pre-heroic BiS for every class, as you can choose which 2 stats you would like to put in there thanks to cogwheels. With patch 4. As far as utility goes, you can get one of the many , many belt enchants and a parachute on your cloak. There's endless little trinkets and random gadgets that can do basically anything, too.

Then there's the grenades, which can boost your DPS and incapacitate targets for 5 seconds or even freeze them in place which counts for shatter for all you mages. And there's a hell of a lot more useful things than the ones I linked. At the end of the day, you can't go wrong if you take engineering on every single character you have. Get a different profession to make money. Comment by runNEOrun I have various toons with level tailor, leatherworker as well as blacksmithing. So I was wondering why those professions are able to craft ilvl gear where as the engineering profession is only able to make ilvl ?

We all use chaos orbs, so what gives? Comment by Thaag Who else is scratching their heads when they realize the two top weapons we can craft require an orb but are only i? Are our skills going to be as obsolete as they were when raiding started in LK?

Maybe moreso, now that ammo is no longer needed? I feel like a mage. Comment by pkarsai The membership renewal system is no longer in the game. Please remove the obsolete information from the introduction. Comment by I'm surprised more people aren't mentioning the portals.

If you're not a mage, engineering's 3 portals are how you don't wait to farm barring getting turned into a chicken. When you meet a mage somewhere, and it takes you 20min in flying and it took them 3sec You will not find much profit from this profession, but the multitude of very amazing toys makes up for it. Outlands is by far the worst in my opinion for leveling the profession. Classic and Northrend are amazingly easy now. Comment by Syconder Why has it not been said that this is nearly perfect for hunters.

Being able to make some of the best guns for leveling, and being able to make the only enchants for ranged weapons, as well as ammo back in the good ol' days. Comment by I am surprised it doesn't say that you can 'deconstruct' mechanical enemies and get extra loot. Comment by xspillcanvas For those of you who want to level engineering fast, and have the money to do so, look up the cataclysm engineering guide on a nifty site called WoW-professions no, this is not advertisement. It provides a detailed step-by-step guide into leveling your engineering the whole way!

It should really take a few hours of dedication to stroll from I invested close to g in total speed leveling this, and I must say it's worth it. Be sure to stop by Tanaris and pick up Goblin Engineering, or Gnome Engineering not sure where to get it, didn't care for it and the Personal World Destroyer s get you quiet a few gold on the AH!

Good luck from Nazjatar. Comment by You can only learn the goggles that goes with your class. Check the quick facts box at the top of the page to each goggles to know which class can make them. Even tho they share the same stats its just different names for different classes.

In exchange for that you will receive a gift that has a chance to contain the schematics for a rare pet specific to your specialization. Comment by How do you change from goblin engineering to gnomish engineering? Comment by i like engineering but its a pain to find all the items you need for all of the cool items.

Comment by staron My blacksmith can craft items with recipes bought right off the vendors. After you collect all the tools combine them into Twinklestar's Gardening Toolkit Bring it to Twinklestar at Tirna Vaal flight point which will reveal the treasure behind her. She will also grant you Moonsight buff if you ask.

Comment by Boxofbeer Twinklestar's Gardening Toolkit is Twinklestar 's tool she asks you to retreive. Twinklestar is at Gardener's Basket - coordinates are Gardener's Hammer - coordinates are Diary of the Night - coordinates are Gardener's Flute - coordinates are Gardener's Wand - coordinates are It's the clickable blue orb behind her after doing it right.

Gardener's Basket Gardener's Hammer Diary of the Night Gardener's Flute Gardener's Wand There is no Feat of Strength, not even an extra achievement, in fact you don't even get the achievement past the first character. The only indication you've completed it in every profession is the check marks on the achievement itself Comment by ayeee That's what she said.

Comment by Terrorshark Don't say it. Comment by NanerFish Huh, so they named this achievement after me, I should feel honored. Please keep the following in mind when posting a comment: Your comment must be in English or it will be removed. Unsure how to post? Check out our handy guide! Anyone have any ideas? Maybe a unique key is needed for the box?

Edited, Sun Mar 6 Comment by Allakhazam I bought these I'm a warrior and opened a locked box of some type that I fished up. Can I continue to use these, or are there certain boxes I won't be able to open? These allow the Rogue to pick locks and disarm traps. Save your 15 silver. View in 3D Find upgrades Quick Facts. Please keep the following in mind when posting a comment: Your comment must be in English or it will be removed.

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